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My Daughter's First Vote For President

Who will an 18 year old, Marin County daughter of a Conservative vote for?

Back when Steve Martin was doing stand up, he had a bit where he’d confront a heckler from the audience. He’d respond to the person giving him a hard time by saying, “Yeah, I remember when I had my first beer…” For some reason that reminds me of what I’m saying about my 18-year-old daughter… “Yeah, I remember when I had my first vote…” My daughter, Nicole, is 18 years old and has the opportunity in her first election to vote for our next president.  My first opportunity came in 1980 when I was 21 years old.

At the time I voted like anyone in my shoes would have voted. I was the son of two Democratic public schoolteachers, had grown up in Marin, and at the time was living in Los Angeles, working in the movie business. Of course I voted for Jimmy Carter. Only those selfish-racist-evil Republicans voted for Ronald Regan. (This is one of my two biggest votes I’d like to take back. The other was voting for Barbara Boxer)

Nicole’s upbringing in our house was less conventional that was mine when I was a teenager in Marin, circa late 1970s. I was spoon fed all the liberal feel-good nonsense by the public schools, my parents, and all media.   Talk radio at the time was not even on my radar as an option for alternative thought. There was only one way to think – like a "progressive."

Nicole has had a different path to her first election. First, she was raised in a religious home by my Mexican-Catholic wife. Second, she saw her father evolve from a 35-year-old liberal to a 53-year-old conservative. She truly has seen “both sides of the coin.” 

She tells me she’s not sure who to vote for. There are things she likes about both candidates and things she does not like about both. She’s not yet an ideologue like her father or grandparents, so is a true swing voter-independent-Libertarian.

To Nicole, it’s no secret who her dad will vote for. Her mom is not yet a U.S. citizen, so Mrs. Amyx has no vote. I’ve also told Nicole on more than one occasion that I will respect her and love her just the same no matter who she votes for. That doesn’t however take away the fact that I have tried my best to inform her on the benefits of voting a predominantly Republican ticket. My advice to her, as an undecided voter, is that when in doubt, vote with your MIND, and avoid voting with your heart. Just like our old buddy Winston Churchill (as the story goes) said, “If you’re 20 years old and aren’t a Liberal, you don’t have a heart.  If you’re 40 years old and not a conservative, you don’t have a brain…”

I’m guessing Nicole’s heart will be bigger than her brain at 20, and if I’m still around when she’s 40, it might see a different story.

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Rex Henderson November 3, 2012 at 10:54 am
It's all about you, isn't it, Tim...
Steve November 3, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Sorry Tim, going conservative at 40 is not proof you have a brain. We're the same age and grew up with similar experiences. Clearly age can temper youthful exuberance and provide greater clarity, but having the capacity of critical thought has convinced me that organizing society on principles of selfishness is not rational or beneficial. We have to think bigger than ourselves. I hope your daughter doesn't loose her idealism as she grows up and become an ideologue like her father.
Steven Norwin November 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Hopefully, she will vote like her father. Mitt Romney for President !!!
Jeanne Lee November 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm
I am with Rex on this. Tim, what about your daughter's right to choose? Perhaps you are part of that lucky 53percent of the populace. I hope your daughter uses both her mind and heart. Healthcare, ending the wars, paying fair share of taxes, leadership skills. Just what does Romney have to offer us. Bain capital as his shining example of gutting companies and shipping jobs overseas?
Dyanne Ross November 3, 2012 at 04:05 pm
I can certainly relate to the progression over time of becoming "conservative", but find that when I haven't followed my heart (and my gut) in voting, I've made some pretty bad mistakes. I also find some pieces of this little story to be *interesting*, if not troubling. It sounds like the Mrs. has been in this country for some time now, so why doesn't she have a "voice"? And why is a foreign, religious, voiceless Wife referred to as raising the child, seemingly by herself? She may be "Mom", but it doesn't sound like she's actually Nicole's MOTHER. It also sounds like Mr. Amyx likes the fact that his daughter was "raised" by someone with no voice. Perhaps now he can use her as HIS voice too. BTW, I can understand how people with both hearts and minds can having a very tough time with this election given what I see as many cons for BOTH of the major candidates. Sadly, Nicole's vote probably won't mean too much regardless of what she chooses to do. But I hope that whomever she votes for, whether it's now or as Mrs. (or perhaps Ms.) Somebody Else, that she always has the confidence, the freedom and the choice to make her vote HER own.
Nicole Amy November 3, 2012 at 08:25 pm
Stop leaving such negative comments to my dad! I AM going to vote for who I WANT to vote for! My dad has actually been helping me seeing as how I don't know anything about politics. I am definitely more liberal than him, but I greatly appreciate him giving me some insight. He has probably been more helpful then most parents around Marin are vein to ther 18 year old children. I respect my dad and his option and you should to.
Nicole Amyx November 3, 2012 at 09:40 pm
stop leaving such negative comments here. I AM going to vote for who i WANT to vote for, but my dad has been very helping in giving me information seeing as how i know nothing about politics. i am definitaly more liberal than my dad, but he has given me very good insight. My dad has just been trying to help me, like any good father would do when their child is voting for the first time
BRIAN WOODWORTH November 4, 2012 at 01:11 pm
By saying Republicans vote with their brain and Democrats vote with their heart, doesn't that imply a couple of corollaries?
The first would be that Republicans are heartless. Certainly we can find many examples of this. While Republicans like to boast about their strong Christian credentials, their policies do the opposite of “whatever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.” The Ryan budget plan disproportionately cuts taxes for the wealthy and severely cuts government services for the “least of my brothers.” The second corollary is that Democrats are brainless. Here Nicole is where your dad crosses the line can effectively calls many of his neighbors stupid for voting for Democrats. We can debate the merits of policy choices, but certainly calling names doesn’t solve problems and bring people together. Tim’s column last week blasted Obama for not seeking a more bipartisan path. Once again, Tim proves that Republicans, by their name calling, really are not interested in any form of compromise. The Republicans in Congress have become the party of no. Perhaps after Obama’s reelection, we can hope that Republicans stop vilifying Obama and become a party more interested in governing for the betterment of the people, and follow the recent examples of their fellow Republicans Bloomberg, Powell, and Christie.
John Ferguson November 4, 2012 at 05:08 pm
Sorry Nicole - as much as you might not like to read negative comments on a blog like this one, by writing his blog post your dad invited all comments and criticism upon himself and by extension you. If you're going to be interested in politics you'll just have to get used to hearing people who have opinions different than yours and occasionally reading things that are negative towards you and your family. It comes with the territory - and by no means should you take it personally. That's just the nature of politics and of the web.
Rex Henderson November 4, 2012 at 05:22 pm
You do that, Nicole! And good for you for being involved. Your father is a stand-up guy. Happens that I went to Tam with him. I am more of a liberal, but I enjoy discussing ideas of all viewpoints.
Rex Henderson November 4, 2012 at 05:23 pm
Awww, leave the girl alone, won't ya, John! Doesn't make you look very smart to be taking on an 18 year old.
StopRush November 5, 2012 at 08:35 pm
Oh Tim, now I understand. Your comment, "Talk radio at the time was not even on my radar as an option for alternative thought." explains everything. Stop listening to Rush and you will see the light. I have two friends that have escaped from the other side. One of them was in my class at Tam four years before you were there. You'll make it. I have hope.
chris November 5, 2012 at 08:41 pm
Rex, John is doing nothing of the sort. He is truthfully expressing that if someone is going to share their opinions in the blogosphere they are going to invite all sorts of criticism, the good, bad and ugly. It is the nature of an anonymous commenting system.
chris November 5, 2012 at 08:44 pm
Well said Brian. I am so tired of the name calling from both sides and long for some civil discourse on the different visions each side has for a better community/town/city/country.
Susan Clark November 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Most Liberals are rude if you do not believe/agree what they believe/agree. It's as if they have no belief in the critical thought process. Marin County is full of them...Unfortunately!
chris November 6, 2012 at 03:45 pm
Susan, you just made a complete overgeneralization of a group of people at the same time as criticizing their critical thinking process. Please tell me you see the irony in that.
Alex Horvath November 6, 2012 at 10:54 pm
@Nicole -- Don't know or care who you voted for. Just glad that you voted. I was a classmate of your dad and your uncle. I'm confident that you are smart enough to make your own decisions.
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