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How Do We Stop All This Gun Violence?

The second worst school shooting in U.S. history, a shooting at a Portland mall, and a report of a man's threats to kill Muslims in a Fremont mosque bring the question to light.

It is being called the second-worst school shooting in U.S. history, second only to the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre that took 32 lives. A man with several guns entered Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut and killed 27 people, including 20 children.

For more than three days since that tragic event, the Internet has been bursting at the seams with debate about whether or not this latest shooting will shift the debate over gun control in America.

"THIS IS THE PRICE FOR THE 2ND AMENDMENT. CAN WE FIND THE COURAGE TO AMEND IT NOW THAT WE SEE THE PRICE?" posted a commenter on the NBCConnecticut.com website soon after the incident.

Within four minutes, another commenter responded: "The 2nd Amendment will never be amended and we should never get rid of it. Its (sic) for law abiding citizens to protect themselves, criminals will always find a way to access guns regardless of the 2nd Amendment."

With tears in his eyes, President Obama addressed the nation. "As a country, we have been through this too many times."

“No more weasly words of ‘comfort’ Mr. President. This is the latest, and worst, gun outrage on your watch. Time to act,” tweeted Piers Morgan

A White House spokesman was asked last Friday afternoon if it was time for a gun control debate in Congress. “I think that day will come, but today’s not that day," said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

“Too soon to speak out about a gun-crazy nation? No, too late,” tweeted filmmaker Michael Moore. “At least THIRTY-ONE school shootings since Columbine.” 

“I am disgusted by those who want to get into the politics of today’s violence. Shame on Michael Moore & MSNBC,” tweeted one-time GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain.

Five months ago, a shooting in Aurora, Colorado claimed 12 lives and wounded dozens more.

A few days days ago, a hospice nurse and a youth coach who were both killed in a shooting at a mall outside of Portland.

A few days ago, the Mercury News reported that on Wednesday a man entered a Fremont mosque and shouted that he was armed and was going to shoot worshipers there. The white man entered the mosque during a prayer time, claimed he had a gun, and said he wanted to shoot everyone.

The Merc reported that the man was confronted by a worshiper and escorted out, where he drove away.

Hours after the Connecticut tragedy, the National Rifle Association website mentioned nothing of the shooting on its website; its 'Top Story' was Homefront Hugs USA Urgest Volunteers to Make a Difference in a Soldier's Life and its 'NRA News Update: Today's latest breaking news and headlines' spoke of a Michigan ruling allowing gun owners with extra training to be able to carry concealed weapons in places such as schools and churches.

Do we have a facsimile to the 'fiscal cliff' here, a 'weapons cliff,' where there will never be the likelihood of compromise, where advocates on both sides of the gun control issue will draw their line in the sand and never cross? As long as the 2nd Amendment remains unchanged, is gun violence inevitable?

Tell us in the comments below. 

Jack December 18, 2012 at 03:20 PM
Let's start at the top. No more daily approvals of predator drone attacks which continue to kill so many innocent kids, Mr. President. Just because they're not the top story doesn't mean they're not dying too. Kind of weird for me to see the guy wiping away invisible, deflective tears in Connecticut after ordering predator drone strikes before leaving DC. My whole family's from Connecticut. The oppressive presence of guns is real, if unreported in these acts of mass violence. Linking critical thinking with a little digging ("You could observe a lot just by looking" - Yogi Berra), you can pair virtually all one of these events in this country to their proximity to the pervasive awfulness of weapons, their manufacture, storage and discharge. Virtually all of these mass murders have taken place in close proximity to a weapons plant, a military base, a weapons storage facility ("You could look it up" - Casey Stengel) or, in the case of Newtown, Connecticut, the home of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the home of the greatest promoters of shooting guns in the world. It's uncanny yet accurate to report that these events continue to occur in close proximity to weapons plants, a military bases, weapons storage facilities, and now, in a place where people are blasting away 24/7. This pattern should not be overlooked, but it is. "Glad my folks took me to baseball games and the beach" - Jack
Joseph Odom December 18, 2012 at 08:49 PM
California State Teachers’ Retirement System has been investing in an assault rifle company? And now they stand to make more $$ from that investment. Sick. Read about it here. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/california-teachers-retirement-plan-invested-in-gun-manufacturer/
T McDermott December 19, 2012 at 04:24 PM
This is not a presidential decision this has been an American decision promoted by the Bullies of America that make money from the gun market. We the people can bear arms but as Senator Feinstein says 'You don't need a machine gun to kill deer'. Hunting can be accomplished without automatic weapons, defending ones' home can be accomplished without an automatic weapon. Gun control must be enacted, not a flimsy handkerchief of surrender. War machines belong at war period, no matter what you can afford you shouldn't have it.
tony masi December 19, 2012 at 05:14 PM
I don't understand the need for assault weapons. Maybe someone can educate me. I would readily support tighter restrictions on the purchase of assault weapons. I can't just yet endorse an outright ban on assault weapons because I am concerned about issues related to confiscating these weapons from those that have already purchased them. I think we should also focus on better gun education. Gun owners should certainly know how to safely use and store their weapons. Gun responsibility needs to be paramount, particularly around children and those of troubled minds. We might also consider some kind of "Red Asphalt" type of gun education in our schools to be taken at the same age as Driver's Ed.. I think we need to counter some of the worship of fantasy violence and overall desensitization to violence experienced by young people in our current American culture of consumer-driven addiction to violence. That, I think, will be a real uphill struggle.
Tman December 20, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of "gun control" advocates? The key fallacy of so-called gun control laws is that such laws do not in fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find firearms readily available. If gun control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the years to leave any serious doubt about gun control laws being not merely futile but counterproductive. Places and times with the strongest gun control laws have often been places and times with high murder rates. Washington, D.C., is a classic example, but just one among many. When it comes to the rate of gun ownership, that is higher in rural areas than in urban areas, but the murder rate is higher in urban areas. The rate of gun ownership is higher among whites than among blacks, but the murder rate is higher among blacks. For the country as a whole, hand gun ownership doubled in the late 20th century, while the murder rate went down. The few counter-examples offered by gun control zealots do not stand up under scrutiny. Perhaps their strongest talking point is that Britain has stronger gun control laws than the United States and lower murder rates.
Tman December 20, 2012 at 05:52 PM
In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s— after decades of ever tightening gun ownership restrictions— there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies. But, if you look back through history, you will find that Britain has had a lower murder rate than the United States for more than two centuries— and, for most of that time, the British had no more stringent gun control laws than the United States. Indeed, neither country had stringent gun control for most of that time. In the middle of the 20th century, you could buy a shotgun in London with no questions asked. New York, which at that time had had the stringent Sullivan Law restricting gun ownership since 1911, still had several times the gun murder rate of London, as well as several times the London murder rate with other weapons. Neither guns nor gun control was not the reason for the difference in murder rates. People were the difference. Yet many of the most zealous advocates of gun control laws, on both sides of the Atlantic, have also been advocates of leniency toward criminals. In Britain, such people have been so successful that legal gun ownership has been reduced almost to the vanishing point, while even most convicted felons in Britain are not put behind bars. The crime rate, including the rate of crimes committed with guns, is far higher in Britain now than it was back in the days when there were few restrictions on Britons buying firearms.
Tman December 20, 2012 at 05:53 PM
In 1954, there were only a dozen armed robberies in London but, by the 1990s— after decades of ever tightening gun ownership restrictions— there were more than a hundred times as many armed robberies. Gun control zealots' choice of Britain for comparison with the United States has been wholly tendentious, not only because it ignored the history of the two countries, but also because it ignored other countries with stronger gun control laws than the United States, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico. All of these countries have higher murder rates than the United States. You could compare other sets of countries and get similar results. Gun ownership has been three times as high in Switzerland as in Germany, but the Swiss have had lower murder rates. Other countries with high rates of gun ownership and low murder rates include Israel, New Zealand, and Finland. Guns are not the problem. People are the problem— including people who are determined to push gun control laws, either in ignorance of the facts or in defiance of the facts. There is innocent ignorance and there is invincible, dogmatic and self-righteous ignorance. Every tragic mass shooting seems to bring out examples of both among gun control advocates. Some years back, there was a professor whose advocacy of gun control led him to produce a "study" that became so discredited that he resigned from his university.
Tman December 20, 2012 at 05:53 PM
Gun control will become increasingly ineffective due to 3D printing technology that is now in the nascent stage of ushering in a new industrial revolution for many consumer products. The internet is a virtual cornucopia for persons desiring to utilize such technology to fabricate weapons. CAD files necessary to construct popular hand guns are readily available and efforts to manufacture 3D guns have commenced in some quarters. The startling aspect of 3D printing is price; 3D printer models now start at $650. Amateur gunsmith Michael Guslick created the lower receiver – part of the housing that contains a firearm’s operating parts – for an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle using a 3D printer. He combined it with off-the-shelf parts to create the weapon and fired off 200 rounds to substantiate that the 3D component was operationally functional. So what you say? Well the lower receiver is the legally controlled part of this firearm that must display a serial number. Thus it is obviously easier for criminals to produce a high-quality unregulated and untraceable weapon. 3D technology is still in its infancy, but will only improve in technology, constructive materials and become cheaper in due time. Around the world and here nefariously inventive minds, many intending great harm, are working toward a capability of producing and employing highly lethal weapons cheaply. Yes, lets make guns illegal, after all its worked for drugs.

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