After the Conventions: Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election, Obama or Romney?

Now that the Democratic and Republican delegates have officially chosen their nominees, Patch wants to know: Who are you betting on?

It's official: With President Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Charlotte Thursday night, both the Republicans and Democrats have formally chosen their nominees for the 2012 presidential election. Let the real race begin.

A lot can change between now and Nov. 6: Gaffes, scandals or even major international news events could shift the dynamics of the campaign.

The latest Gallup Polls show registered voters preferring Obama to Mitt Romney by just one percentage point, 47 percent to 46 percent. A USA Today/Gallup poll taken just before the party conventions found American voters think Obama is more likeable, but trust Romney more to handle the economy.

Pundits have been busy for months handicapping the major-party candidates on various factors: incumbent advantage, fundraising clout, even religion.

Patch wants to know: Regardless of who you support for President, who do you think will actually claim victory in November?

Let us know who you think will win and why in the Comments below.

Jane Gray September 23, 2012 at 02:45 AM
We will see,,,, and if you have kept an open mind Arvid, please go see his Movie Obama's America 2016, like millions of other people are doing. Now playing at the local easy to find NORTHGATE MALL THEATER IN SAN RAFAEL, OBAMA'S AMERICA 2016 FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO STAY INFORMED ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA. ( ARVID, I DOUBLE DARE YOU TO GO SEE IT). JANE
tony masi September 23, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Jane, I'm not asking you to defend God. You may have meant to address Arvid. However, we did support Saddam Hussein in Iraq's war with Iran. Between 1980 and 1988, the U.S. gave Iraq $40 billion in aid and ignored Saddam's violations of international law and his use of chemical weapons in our efforts to stem the expansion of shiite radicalism under Khomeini. We removed Iraq from the U.S. list of State Sponsors of Terrorism in order to facilitate their purchase of weapons for use against Iran, and it's been reported that we advised Hussein to bomb civilian targets in Tehran and other Iranian cities. All of this backfired and the U.S. only accomplished the exact opposite of what they were initially trying to attain. We created a monster with Hussein and galvanized radical shiite solidarity in their opposition to the occupation and influence of "western imperialists". I do not oppose those that serve in the military. I reject the failed policies that put them in harm's way for questionable goals that so far have accomplished nothing I can see of real lasting positive value.
Jane Gray September 23, 2012 at 03:00 AM
‎"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march!" Just over a year ago, Teamster union chief Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. launched Big Labor's battle plan to re-elect Barack Obama. Union bosses know their unprecedented access to a Big Labor-friendly White House and bureaucracy -- and control of the U.S. Senate -- is at stake, and they will do anything to keep their power.
Jane Gray September 23, 2012 at 03:02 AM
‎"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march!" Just over a year ago, Teamster union chief Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. launched Big Labor's battle plan to re-elect Barack Obama. Union bosses know their unprecedented access to a Big Labor-friendly White House and bureaucracy -- and control of the U.S. Senate -- is at stake, and they will do anything to keep their power.
Arvid P. Sloan September 23, 2012 at 03:04 AM
If you watch this ill go see it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
Jane Gray September 23, 2012 at 03:17 AM
I watched this waste of film,,,,,, but I did. Now see you at the Movies Sloan,,,,,,,, you agreed on line for all to see. Have some popcorn while your there learning about Obama's America 2016, much better info than Asian smutt films.
Arvid P. Sloan September 23, 2012 at 03:22 AM
That video has over 250 million hits and there was no nudity or anything smutty. I would never post something smutty.
Jane Gray September 23, 2012 at 06:37 AM
yes,,,, excuses excuses, lets hear what you think of the movie, You made a bet, I am not caring how many "hits" it has,,,,,it was smut!,, I am sorry you live in some fantasy world where you appreciate that kind of "show". But you made the bargain, now live up to your word,,,,,,,,or are you a backslider now? YOUR WORDS SLOAN<<< or do you keep your word???? "If you watch this ill go see it. " (I watched it, you did not say I had to like it). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
tony masi September 24, 2012 at 02:54 AM
Jeez Louise, Jane! Is dancing immoral? Kids around the world love this!
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:23 AM
Steve - there has been wonderful change - DADT is gone Real action on Health Reform One war is over, another one is ending Jobs are being created, rather than lost Someone that is trying to work for all the people, rather than just the elite is in office Someone I can trust (I don't really care if you can trust him or not, but I can) is in office. Someone who shows tremendous leadership in the face of a total obstructionist opposite party is moving us forward. So yes, Steve, I love the change. And unlike most Republicans and Tea Partiers who only seem to talk in vitriloic sentences with hate tinged in, I am loving who our President is. And guess what - he has shown us his tax returns for the past decade. Wonder what YOUR candidate is hiding?
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Dear Jane. Why won't WIlliard Romney show us his tax returns for the past decade? Why won't he listen to the advice of his Father? Why won't he admint that he also took government assistance? What is he hiding? How does finding loopholes in the tax code benefit YOU? Is that really the type of Leader you would vote for? What is Mr. Romney even for? Can you honestly tell us what he stands for? Except that he doesn't care about the poor nor the middle clase nor anyone with earnings like most Americans. Oh, and by the way, I am in the upper few % and gladly pay my taxes - you see, I believe in schools and roads and clean water, clean air, safe food. If you don't want to pay for them, feel free not to..just don't use them please. Oh, I forgot....what do you think about those several thousand millionaires also in the group that also don't pay Federal income tax? And, why did Williard Romney throw all those Republican's who get Social Security and Medicare and who don't pay Federal Income Tax under the bus? You know, anyone can make a movie to show an opinion...but it is the record that counts. But you wouldn't want to be burdened by facts I guess.
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:34 AM
Dear Jane. Why did Williard Romney have to wait until now to get his 2011 taxes in? I got mine in before April 15. What changes did he make over the past few months..hmmm. And why doesn't he take the advice of his Dad and show a decade of tax returns. What do YOU think he is hiding? Or is "hiding" one of the leadership qualities you look for in a candidate? HMMMMM....
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:35 AM
Dear Jane. You are funny!
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:36 AM
Dear Jane. Do you think your God is better than mine? Be honest now. Your answer will truly show us a lot about you.
DavethePragmatist September 24, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Dear Jane, If you are truly thankful for those who have protected us, what do you think about your Republican Party who voted a Veteran's job bill down? Why are you not screaming and writing letters to them to grow up and give the Vet's a real reform - even if nothing more than to thank them? And do you know the definitions of those various political movements you talk about? Funny...but our greatest "social" program in the U.S. is..ahem..get ready...our Military....I guess we should privatize that instead...right?
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 06:55 AM
Tony, I was a good dancer,,,,,,,, Our church does not promote dancing,(bar room stuff), but that is a doctrine,,,,different from God's word,,,,,,,,"dance unto the Lord",is quite different Tony,,,,,,,,Oh, hey, have you heard this song? Hey Ho! My sister's grandson, is in the Lumineers, heard of them? My grandchildren all play guitars, and are very musical,,,Christians. We stear clear for the most part from the bumps and grinds,,,,,,no, I love to see good dancers, but that vid you offered, has bathroom and elevator scenes, bumps and grinds,,,,,,, not a pleasant sight for me. It made no sense. Okay? that is my take on it. They are playing Hey Ho alot on Alice this week, we are proud of Stelth, he is my nieces son,(he was named Stelth before the public knew of the plane or jet named that, his grandpa was a Captain in the AirForce, my sis husband, he knew about the name early on,,,, Stelth ,,,,,,,has been all over the world,,,,,,,Lumineers are a good modern group. Jane
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 07:05 AM
Dave, so many questions, I am no expert, but Romney just released his current tax form,,,,,,,he is very rich,, please read some of my other postings on this,,,,,,,, we cannot have a poor man in office, Obama is very rich also. It takes lots of money to get there, people sell out on the way up also..........too bad. But Money talks. So then,,,,I had millionaire relatives, lived for their money, made friends and influience with it ,,,,, bragged, used it,,,,,,, I could have stayed for "my share" but it went with a 50 percent abusive relationship. I opped out to live without all that, and struggle. I think you do not like Republican's and money right? So look to another candidate,,,, green? or ?? I do know that the "them and us" or the "have's or havenots" is not real for the most part. And I don't envy people who die rich with a couple selfish relatives champing at the bit to inherit. Some people worry over their "legacy",,,,,,,,for what? When you die you die , and cannot take any with you. You can use it to good ,,,,,,I think Romney has. That is my opinion of him. I look at a person,,,,as an Artist, I see alot about a person. I have a photo of Romney that I like, he looks like a likable man, good father, nice husband,,,,,,,,after that,,,,,,I don't know the future, I do know who I don't want. I will post the Romney picture on my posting. (just for you, wink wink!) jane said all that!
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 07:41 AM
Well?? Did you keep your word?
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 07:44 AM
I agree Steve, thank you for the posting, jane
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 07:56 AM
This is in reply to Dave,,,,,,,, I am not one to fight all the battles, I think the Vets may if they are unhappy. I am here to discuss the vote, freedom and America, more in general, and I won't spend hours arguing each point you bring up,,,,,, you want Obama, that is your decision. I learned long ago, as an activist, that arguing is not worth it, move on and talk to others,,,,,, it saves the sanity. And Yes, I support our Vets,and our military in my own way. My flag is also flying right now out front.
tony masi September 24, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Fair enough, Jane. I just thought "smut" was a little heavy-handed. I am not currently familiar with the Lumineers; but the last time I saw the Sons of the Pioneers, I considered it a religious experience.
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Did you keep your word yet?
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 05:18 PM
Steven I really like your comments, thanks! jane
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Just because "children around the world love something", or the tube has a million hits, I don't have to like it's content,,,,,,which is not spoken in a language I understand, bumps and grinds, goes into the elevator scene, sexually suggestive in content, bumps and grinds are not what I call dancing. I know that following a "crowd" of something popular could lead me right off a cliff, am I thinking for myself or millions of people who like it. I will open another can of worms here, Lady (not a lady) Ga Ga,,,very talented, using her talent to say what she pleases because she is "popular". The Bible tells us not to strive to be "popular" for a reason. If Ga Ga says do it,,,,,,will I? Never! She is doing all the Whacky things to get seen and "popular" and grabbed on to the gay movement to get more fans. Same with the video,,,,,,, I can do well without. jane
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 05:39 PM
Tony, I still would call it smut. The Lumineers are young people, it is not a religious song, but a nice one. If Alice is playing it over and over, it must be popular with the secular young people. I also like Katy Perry, and Adele. Amy was so good too, but drug took her so young, she had such talent and got ruined. This is an example of talent wasted. Perry is a beautiful young woman, I pray she does not get ruined and lost in all her fame. I have close ups of her, she is really a beautiful woman. As an artist I appreciate beauty, but especially inner beauty.
Jane Gray September 24, 2012 at 05:45 PM
I have posted my favorite picture of Mitt Romney,,,,,, he looks like a man who works hard, tanned from outdoors, stress shows between the eyes, he has not had an easy life dispite his money,,,,,,,,,I am hoping he gets elected. I think he is a good man, should check his small talk, as he did not think what he said would go national. I would hate to be secretly recorded and videod without my knowledge. That was really creepy, a set up. That would tell me that the questions were also leads to get him to speak out,,,,, this was a private affair, I would not want that done to me. We all say things off our mind that may offend someone, the bible warns about talking too much. Yes Jane,,,,,,stop writing! smile, but really.
Helen Carter September 24, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Thanks Jane and Christine for all your comments! Christine ...the credit rating of the US was down graded again to AA- so, twice Obama with his large debt has caused America to look bad. The media is not talking about this. Jane...Bless you, for speaking the truth about Obama! Have you heard this: President will not meet with any world leaders during UN General Assembly. President of Egypt is warning Obama that the U.S. better change its foreign policy - but why meet with foreign leaders when you can hang out with Joy Behar / The View? (he recorded the show today will air on Tuesday) Last week Obama subbing a meeting with Israel for the Letterman show and Rappers. Obama does not spend anytime working for the American people, he is out there trying to save his job - oh, notice Oprah is not supporting him anymore? What happened to her support? Or she learned the truth.
Jane Gray September 25, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Thank you Helen,,,,,, I noticed this about Obama's and TV though I don't have one working at this time, must depend on internet news. Thank you for catching me up,,I really appreciate it, and so good to do this for people who appreciate it. I noticed, Clinton leads Obama, Clinton was dispicable in our White House, then writes a book or two,,,,,,He is really just a southern "charmer", like a snake in my book,,,,,,,,,, I am alone in this also. He ruined Monica, a love struck stary eyes naive young woman,,,,, she played her part but HE was the ADULT and authority,,,,,He should have gone to prison! I know Obama has been playing "cute" for some time now,,,,,a play for votes and fun! He may know people are really REALLY fed up and actually afraid if he gets re elected. That is why I have spent my time trying to open this election up here locally. I have been pleasantly supprised over the positive response, that and I had noticed that that great movie was not getting any local notice ,,,,,,,,,I hope that theater has a packed house each time it show's. Jane
Jane Gray September 25, 2012 at 12:35 AM
PS HELEN,,,,,,,,,, I am saddened that the world leaders are being snubbed by this president of ours, it took years to build the trust and he is tarnishing it all with his "arrogance". This senator walks out of no where, makes great speeches, and won our trust and the Presidency! His wife is doing all the "goody things" and the kids are sweet. I watch him, I have a pic of him with the book about the NEW world,,,,,,,as one commentor said, Obama is ready to usher in the "New World Order",,,,,,,he has already started. Attacks on our foundation, favoring radical issues , when he cant stop his spending, he is sending millions to Kenya, which is not his place to do all this without approvals of ALL the people , not just his cronies. jane, enough for now!
Jane Gray September 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM
This comment was removed I would guess? (Arvid P. Sloan also commented on After the Conventions: Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election, Obama or Romney?. "The bible is just a book, wake up to gods truth.") I am responding to this one Arvid,,Sloan,,you need to find out that the Bible is the Inspired words of God, passed down through the ages,,,not to be taken away from or added to. I was raised by a dad that read passages every nite. He taught us parrables, and lessons. I had a wonderful dad, who loved all people. Perfact, no, but a dad who was reading me the funny papers before I could read them,,,,,,,,back to the bible,,, It has survived all the wars, all the discrimination, all the hate and crimes, it is GOD's word. I am sorry you choose to pitch it out,, in favor of "your god" as that may really lead you astray. I have met many men who say they are a "Christian" and then they show they are not. They say things like "oh, I have my own religion" or " I have the new age religion" or I worship the earth, or the trees, or or or,,,God stated that we are to have no other gods before HIM. He does not need me to defend Him or His words or HIS bible. You could distroy all the bibles of the world and many would have memorized the pages, in many countries. It has saved many in prisons all over the globe and it is being translated all the time to accomedate those who want to read God's word. You pulled my string on this one,, I disagree with you on this 100%. Jane


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