Fireworks, a Stolen $60,000 Camera and Noise Complaints Aplenty

This week’s roundup of police activities includes July 4th-related hijinks and a balding and goateed white man driving a red sports car.

July 3

2:41 p.m. – Someone called the police to report that someone was playing bongos in the Depot Plaza. Police determined that no crime had occurred. Just bongos.

July 4

12:06 a.m. – Residents in the area of the 2am Club on Miller Ave. reported people being loud in the street and barking dogs.

6:25 p.m. – A resident of Ethel Ave. reported that his neighbor was setting off fireworks in his backyard. Police contacted the man, who was simply lighting his barbecue in his yard. No crime.

9:04 p.m. – Residents of a home near Edna Maguire School were reportedly setting off fireworks. Police contacted them and advised them to cease using fireworks.

10:17 p.m. – Kids were reportedly setting off fireworks on Shelter Bay Avenue, but police were unable to locate them.

July 5

9:51 a.m. – Someone broke into the Clear Center of Health on Throckmorton Ave. overnight and stole a laptop, a $60,000 camera and other items. 

12:13 p.m. – A resident of Tamalpais Ave. reported that his ATM card was used in Scotland to the tune of $476.

July 6

12:45 p.m. – A resident reported that the driver of a red sports car didn’t yield as he was crossing the street in the 400 block of Miller Ave., almost hitting him as he drove off toward downtown. The driver was described as a balding white man with white hair and a goatee.

10:02 p.m. – A resident of Wilkins Place called police to report that a neighbor’s dog had been barking for three hours. Police advised the dog owner of the complaint.

July 7

9:52 p.m. – A resident made a noise complaint about a wedding happening at the Outdoor Art Club. Police contacted the wedding party and was told that it was ending at 10 p.m. Police received another call about the noise at the club a few minutes later.

July 8

3:13 a.m. – A resident of Ethel Ave. reported that loud music and people singing were causing a disturbance. Police advised the party people to turn off the music and keep the noise down.

8:34 a.m. – A resident of the 700 block of Miller Ave. came outside to find that his gray Toyota Tacoma pickup truck had its back window broken, its ignition “pounded in” and there were wires hanging below the steering wheel.

2:44 p.m. – An employee of the Mili store on Throckmorton reported that someone had stolen an item from the store the week before and that she obtained video footage of the incident and knew who did it. The employee said she contacted the alleged thief, who was uncooperative, and she wanted police to help.

HV Majority July 11, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Hey Mari, Isn't your husband, Arne Frager (http://arnefrager.blogspot.com/) a balding, white haired, goateed driver of a red sports car? And isn't your street, Evergreen Ave, just around the corner from the 400 block of Miller where a man fitting that description nearly mowed down a pedestrian on July 6th? And aren't you the one claiming a 100% safety record on your street, Evergreen where you claim there's no need for a sidewalk because pedestrians are safer walking in the street? Hypocrisy is grand, ain't it?
leslie reiber July 12, 2012 at 12:23 AM
I think it's time for the Patch to start requiring real names to be associated with comments. This kind of anonymous trolling is creepy and invasive (and in this case potentially libelous?). I think it's beginning to interfere with other readers' willingness to join the conversation, and affecting the quality of the publication.
Rico July 12, 2012 at 01:41 AM
leslie, I think it's time for you to not worry about people who post anywhere using different names than their own . I have been posting and blogging for many years on many different forums, but I have never once used my real name. Why you ask ? A multitude of reasons, ie: I live here and make my living here, I don't want to have some people who might disagree with my revelation of facts or my opinions, hold it against me personally. This could seriously damage my reputation and harm my livelyhood. Some of my clients do not share the same views and beliefs as I, and if they knew that I was what some consider to be a non-partisan radical, they might not hire me to do technical work. There are many ways for one to protect their privacy using the world wide web, and here are some tips: I have 3 email accounts, but none in my real name, in fact, one of them allows me to use any name that I want to, and any valid email address also, it's great for business emails. When using the internet, I delete temporary files and scan for spyware and malware after each session. I will never , EVER use my real name when posting on public internet forums, and for you to demand it will get you absolutely nowhere. It ain't like Facebook, we don't got to show no stinkin badges ! P.S. I think the Patch should allow the previewing of submitted posts. It is almost impossible to proof read now the way the system is set up.
Jim Welte July 12, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Real names are not required in our commenting system at this time. But while some might use that anonymity to give them cover to post their opinions without accountability, it shouldn't be abused to accuse someone of a possible crime without any first-hand knowledge of it. We should all be able to agree on that.
Rico July 12, 2012 at 02:36 AM
Jim, I agree on that. I have always respected the privilege to post to be honored to be able to post on any site. I have always done my best to respect other peoples opinions, even if they are the opposite of mine. I will never engage in personal attacks, accuse people of crimes individually by name, engage in name calling or other slanderous acusations about drug use or anything else. I think the beauty of the internet is anonymity, as long as people are polite, respect other peoples opinions and rights to privacy. If the anonymity goes away, for sure will I. But I forgot the very most important thing that I do, DELETE BROWSING HISTORY after each session. There are exceptions to this rule: Like the way the new S.F. Gate comments are set up. The S.F> Gate changed a few weeks ago to a completely new system. They post articles, but sometimes delete them after a few hours, and with that they also delete all the comments. Then , they sometimes repost the articles without the comments. It depends on the nature of the posts, if they don't like where a thread is going, they delete it, a form of censorship. But sometimes, if you save your comment in history, you can get back to it and view and respond to new comments that nobody else will see unless they saved it in history. But this a completely new thing that was just started at the S.F. Gate, all other internet browsing history can be deleted in Google Chrome and one can select what to delete or not. IE is different.
leslie reiber July 12, 2012 at 03:38 AM
"Ricardo" -- I'm not "worried" about people who post anonymously, I simply don't respect them nor value their opinions. (And I'm very sorry to learn that you hide behind a pseudonym, because it truly will change how I view your posts.) I do worry about the integrity of this publication. This is not a blog or chat room. There are reasons - both professional and legal - that daily newspapers and other print media avoid printing anonymous opinions.
Rico July 12, 2012 at 05:01 PM
I am curious about this $60,000 camera stolen. Was it some kind of special camera, and what was the make of it. And Leslie, I am sorry to hear that you will change your view of my posts because I use a pseudonym. You would be very surprised to learn that many people use pseudonyms, that is what the internet was originally all about. I do know that all newspapers require that a person use their real names when writing letters to the editor, but that is completely different than posting on an internet forum, perhaps you don't understand the difference. The people who post on internet forums are not necessarily professional journalists, and to me it doesn't make any difference what name that they use, I care about the content and accuracy of facts. It is only the "Facebook Security Team" that wants people to use their real name, that is why I would never join Facebook.
HV Majority July 12, 2012 at 11:31 PM
I'm not accusing anyone. I'm asking Mari if her husband actually does fit the description of the alleged criminal and lives in the neighborhood where the crime took place and drives a car matching the description of the car in question. To me it seems they do but I'm wondering how Mari views it. I'm also offering that, if it was her husband, and he's one of those suing the county to stop the sidewalk and reiterating her claim of a safe street, then it would seem quite... maybe hypocritical isn't the best word, but it would certainly call into question what Mari considers "safe" as the action this driver was not safe enough to prevent someone from calling the police. And if the driver is her husband and she considers his driving safe then their claims of a "safe" street are meaningless. And Leslie, anonymity is sometimes necessary to foster free and open speech since in some cases some individuals on the other side of the argument can be unstable enough to worry the poster about their safety so as to prevent them from posting using an identifiable identity. Nevertheless, your quality criteria is mixed up. It's not their identity that gives credence to their posts, it's the content of their writings that gives them credence. The author, or their name, is irrelevant.
Scott July 13, 2012 at 03:24 AM
Ha ha, too funny. You can't make this stuff up! It's even funnier that, for once, Mari isn't commenting.
leslie reiber July 13, 2012 at 05:30 AM
The last two comments illustrate exactly why I feel anonymous postings damage the quality of a publication. An anonymous poster implies that a private citizen has committed a crime, and posts a link to further identify that individual. This private citizen has had no public involvement with the issue he's being connected with; there is no basis to implicate him in a crime. The author re-posts the information and admits that he is holding this couple up for ridicule (apparently successfully, judging from "Scott's" comment). That pretty well fits the definition of defamation. Fortunately, from what I've researched today, The Patch itself is probably protected from liability for online third-party comments. http://www.okcuptowner.com/journalism/website-comments-and-issues-of-liable/ As far as my quality criteria goes, I don't think I'm at all "mixed up". No, an identifiable voice doesn't GIVE credence to the written word. But interestingly, content is not credible without it. I can't see any value in the personal opinion of someone unwilling to identify themselves as a person. If you're not willing to own-up to what you want to say, it's probably something you shouldn't say. (I know, mom-quote, sorry.)
Mari July 13, 2012 at 02:47 PM
I agree with you, Jim. Believe me, I constantly complain about my husband's driving! but I doubt that he was the driver in question above, because, on that day - we were both busting our butts cleaning out the garage - one of the few positive aspects of this contentious sidewalk debacle! As for me not commenting on this until now - I have a life.


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